Cut and paste political diatribes to your hearts’ content in this thread — where people who are actually interested might read it.

Liz George is the publisher of Montclair Local. liz@montclairlocal.news

185 replies on “Play Politics Here”

  3. CHIRPY CHIRPY CHEEP CHEEP
    (Harold Stott)
    Middle Of The Road – 1971
    Mac & Katie Kissoon – 1971
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    Woke up this morning ……… FADE
    Posted by: Hiding in Baristaville | February 28, 2007 2:36 PM
    The following is a parody, and does not represent the words or actions of any Montclair civil servant.
    Dear Mark M,
    Thank you for your recent letter. {I can’t believe I’m missing the Young and the Restless over this crap. Note to self: Use eminent domain to take over Baristanet and turn it into the Joe Hartnett fan site.} With respect to the trash receptacles, unfortunately what had happened was that NJ Transit recently replaced the receptacles with a new, locking kind of unit but did not give us the keys. {That George Warrington over at NJT is such a card. Just last week after we played squash, he put Ben-Gay in my thong. I fixed his wagon – sent his wife a picture of old Georgie felching McGreevy at after the ’02 budget meetings.} We just obtained the keys yesterday so the overflowing trash will not continue to be a problem. {Note to self: Have that lardass Remsy rubberstamp a change to the town charter making obnoxious, Jeri-curled Council members responsible for station trash removal duty.}
    With respect to the security issues, we have been trying a variety of strategies but they obviously have not worked. {Put a table lamp inside the station on a timer. Stuck one of those “Protected by ADT” stickers to the window. Nothing worked. Those skateboard punks are smarter than they look. Must be private school kids cause they sure didn’t get this sharp at Montclair High.} As long as the station remains under lease to us, we will stay at it until we find a permanent solution. {Yada, yada, yada} We will be happy to check the information you forwarded to make sure we are not missing anything. {Like you could figure out anything that we didn’t already think of.} Of course, the major issue we always face is balancing the many demands put upon our Police and other departments while trying to restrain escalating property taxes. {If we authorize budget for any more police patrols, my kids might have to return the township Hummer} I assure you that the vast majority of our people are neither work-averse nor irresponsible. {I’m dying to say something about Mattox, but Trembulak told me to keep my trap shut.}
    Locking the station was a temporary measure to protect a valuable asset while buying a little time to help us work to a more permanent solution, just like I had to “lock out” other things I’m working on (like the township budget) to buy the time to personally respond to your letter. {My power is intoxicating. All consuming. Bow before me! Oooh, I’m making myself hot.} It’s always about prioritizing and balancing time and resources, whether Police work or anything else we do. Otherwise, almost all problems would be very easy to solve.
    Thank you for your interest, concern, and suggestions and we’ll be taking a look at that information you sent. Thanks again. {And keep an eye on your mailbox for an updated property assessment, douchebag. }
    Sincerely,
    Joe Hartnett
    Township Manager
    Posted by: Hiding in Baristaville | February 28, 2007 2:38 PM

  4. What’s all this talk about premature presidential erections? I heard that Jersey was going to be one of the first places to determine who will contest in the presidental erections, and I don’t think that is good idea because it could get very messy.

  5. If the usual suspects who hijack every other thread actually take the bate and move to this one, those of us who have had suffer through their diatribes should hijack this thread by posting our favorite meatloaf recipe. (be sure to make it excruciatingly long, multi stepped, no abbreviations and be sure to include your favorite side dish recipes)

  7. President George W. Bush:
    “The best way to defeat the totalitarian of hate is with an ideology of hope — an ideology of hate — excuse me –with an ideology of hope.” –George W. Bush, Fort Benning, Ga., Jan. 11, 2007

  8. Emily Latella! Going old school there, Cool!
    Hey anyone want pix of Suzy frolicking nude at the Watchung ave train station? Even got one of her “hiding” behind a transparent refuse bin. Saucy!

  11. Look at all the ECM above. Having trouble with the real news?
    The New Yorker
    THE REDIRECTION
    by SEYMOUR M. HERSH
    To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda.

  14. Wall Street Journal
    Washington Wire
    Panel to Ponder War Powers
    The newly launched National War Powers Commission will be chaired by former Secretary of State James Baker, fresh off leading the Iraq Study Group, along with another former top diplomat, Warren Christopher. The panel enter a debate almost as old as the republic, but also one that is particularly salient now as Democrats in Congress ponder whether to curtail funding for the Iraq war or even to repeal the 2002 measure authorizing it.
    https://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2007/02/28/panel-to-ponder-war-powers/

  17. “Is the Administration√¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢s new policy benefitting our enemies in the war on terrorism?”
    You mean Bush is falling into lock-step with the Dems? Say it ain’t so!

  18. There were things that were there that are not. I was at these places. I would like to get involved with this type of thing, if there is a number I can call or place to go. I don’t know these places. I wasn’t at these places.

  20. “George W. Bush : better or worse than Clinton
    I say worse.”
    Bush: Arguably the worst president in US history.

  21. They could repeal the 2002 “Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq” (Did the Dems/leftists ever read the thing and see what they were voting for? Can’t tell that they did by the way they talk. See below and actually read it.) but since it was an unnecessary step in the President’s plan, repealing it is symbolic. The left just wanted a piece of the glory if it went well.
    No need to ponder the War Powers Act, just bring it to the Supremes. But the Dems won’t, they know they’ll lose that battle also, they do love their unconstitutional and non-binding legislation. Wish I could do my work that way, the illusion of accomplishment.
    Now what they can do is defund the war. But being spineless and afraid of the political backlash they won’t do that. Plus they need the war to continue until the Presidential election, it’s their strongest crying point. It’s not like they’re really worried about our Military members in harm’s way, otherwise they wouldn’t constantly be trying to undermine them.
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html

  23. “pssst…your vote does not count anymore, remember ?”
    Maybe, for now, but it will again. The left is already bogged down in their fractious quagmire and we’re not even 3 months into their “rule”. If you’ve ever worked with the mentally ill you’ve seen it before. Hard to keep all that dysfunction focused for any length of time.

  24. It looks like James Baker is starting a group to determine and discuss the war power of the presidency. Obviously that republican has had enough. I’m sure he is not alone.

  25. “”We have no alternative,” Baker said. “If the United States does not exercise power, others will.””

  27. And I’m equally sure you never know what you’re talking about, mikey.
    But if it makes you feel good, I’m sure this thread was more or less “dictated” by your hijacking of the school funding one yesterday.
    Why do you post, laserballboy? To sway people? To parcel out the truth? Merely to harangue and snarl? I’m curious.

  29. Hey I see North Korea is coming around. Good Job Mr. President, just keep an eye on them. Now on to Iran. Make em deal or take the appropriate action. Someone has to.

  30. There are 2 aircraft carriers in in the Persian Gulf and a 3rd is on the way. Wesley Clark believes war may happen in the next couple months. Doesn’t seem like the administration is interested in talking.

  31. “Wes Clark believes (i luv this part) war may happen”……..
    Mickie Mickie Mickie…………..
    We are at War.

  32. Not with Iran and if sanity returns we will stop the next catastrophic war.
    We didn’t stop Iraq but we have a chance to stop Iran.

  34. Ever read Sun Tzu? “Confront your enemy with the tip of your sword to his nose”. A great bargaining position, make em sweat some. Worked for Reagan in defeating the Soviets. Oh yeah…You guys were wrong then also, weren’t you?

  38. There are strong possibility that president will declare war on Iran. The president believes he is authorized to do so constitutionally or by the war authorization for Iraq. This is why James Baker is forming a group to discuss the war powers of the presidency.

  39. Its obvious you haven’t considered what could happen if we went to war with Iran.

  40. When Amadinajad says he wants to kill you.
    Slit your neighbors throat while his wife and kids look on.
    Rape the wife while the kids look on.
    And well you guess what next….
    Why don’t you believe him?
    When Bush says he want to try to protect Americans from foreign fighters.
    You want to impeach him.
    and BTW
    James A. Baker was Bush’s lawyer 2000.
    Sorry to bring up another SORE subject !

  44. TMZ has learned that actor Jeff Goldblum has filed a restraining order against a 44-year-old woman, claiming that she has shown up to his house “unannounced and uninvited 20 times within the past month and over 50 times in the last three months.”
    In court documents, filed today in Los Angeles County Superior Court, Goldblum claims a woman named Linda Ransom has “sent harassing and threatening letters, stalked me at various locations, physically attacked my employee and accosted me.”
    According to the documents, Ransom met Goldblum at an acting school in Los Angeles where Goldblum teaches. She then began showing up at various locations where he performed with his jazz band, The Mildred Snitzer Orchestra.
    In a statement included in the court documents, Ransom claims she was just trying to get Goldblum to “support my efforts to complete my research and screenplay as accurate [sic] as possible.”

  45. General Sturgeon,
    You are absolutely right. There are special forces in Iran right now and we have known about it for a year. The Iranians have even shot down some of our unmanned spy drones. Just like Cambodia, the war we are waging against Iran right now is illegal and impeachable.
    The question that bothers me is what happens after the bombing raids. US forces will most likely use nuclear bunker busting weapons which will produce radiation fallout. Iranians will pledge their loyalty to the their government and join the fight in Iraq in large numbers. And does the rest of the world stand by and do nothing? Bombing Iran affects the Russian and Chinese economies directly. Is the progression: war in Iraq -> regional middle east war -> world war?

  46. Lasermike,
    Nuclear bunker busting bombs? Okay, now I’ve heard it all. What happen after the bombing raids on Bahgdad when Clinton emptied our Cruise Missle store-house? What nuclear fallout was there?
    “The sky is falling, the sky is falling!” Weren’t you the same person who kept talking about the Soviet’s and the US being destroyed in a mutual nuclear holocaust?
    Same liberals, same fear mongering, same rhetoric, same lack of critical thinking.
    Mike, did you get your opinion from the NY Times or have you been harboring those fears all your ultra radical left wing life?
    Do tell.
    Oh, and for the record I served in the US Special Forces and I have no indication from my sources that we’re IRAN fighting an Illegal war but YOU DO? Which Group did you serve with, when and what are your sources saying?
    Again, do tell.

  47. “the war we are waging against Iran right now is illegal and impeachable.”
    A jihadist supporter AND a lawyer. Wow mike you are well-rounded
    BTW the war on terror is being waged militarily, financially and diplomatically in something like 100 countries. Some historian types are already referring to this as WWIII. Some WWIV being they count the Cold War.

  49. “Iranians will pledge their loyalty to the their government and join the fight in Iraq”
    Well you got it half right. “The have joined the fight” They are sending $ men, arms and comfort.
    Armadinajad’s poll ratings are almost as low as Dubya’s. The Iranians have had about enough.

  50. Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator or nuclear bunker buster.
    https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/rnep.htm
    The New Yorker
    THE COMING WARS
    What the Pentagon can now do in secret.
    by SEYMOUR M. HERSH
    The Administration has been conducting secret reconnaissance missions inside Iran at least since last summer. Much of the focus is on the accumulation of intelligence and targeting information on Iranian nuclear, chemical, and missile sites, both declared and suspected. The goal is to identify and isolate three dozen, and perhaps more, such targets that could be destroyed by precision strikes and short-term commando raids. “The civilians in the Pentagon want to go into Iran and destroy as much of the military infrastructure as possible,” the government consultant with close ties to the Pentagon told me.
    https://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050124fa_fact

  53. “Laser100MetersDownrange” You know what? I don’t like how that sounds. You keep flapping your mouth like that you might find yourself in jail and then civil court. Be careful of the words you use.

  55. Criticisms
    Kennedy research
    Hersh’s 1997 book about John F. Kennedy, The Dark Side of Camelot, made a number of controversial assertions about the former president, including that he had had a “first marriage” to a woman named Durie Malcolm that was never terminated, and that he had a close working relationship with mob boss Sam Giancana. In a Los Angeles Times review, Edward Jay Epstein cast doubt on these and other assertions, writing, “this book turns out to be, alas, more about the deficiencies of investigative journalism than about the deficiencies of John F. Kennedy.” [17] Responding to the book, historian and former Kennedy aide Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. called Hersh “the most gullible investigative reporter I’ve ever encountered.”[18]
    Use of anonymous sources
    Hersh makes frequent reference to anonymous sources in his reporting; some have criticized this usage, implying that some of these sources are unreliable or even made up. In a review of Hersh’s book, “Chain of Command”, commentator Amir Taheri wrote, “As soon as he has made an assertion he cites a “source” to back it. In every case this is either an un-named former official or an unidentified secret document passed to Hersh in unknown circumstances… By my count Hersh has anonymous ‘sources’ inside 30 foreign governments and virtually every department of the US government.” [19]
    David Remnick, the editor of the New Yorker, maintains that he is aware of the identity of all of Hersh’s unnamed sources, telling the Columbia Journalism Review that “I know every single source that is in his pieces…. Every ‘retired intelligence officer,’ every general with reason to know, and all those phrases that one has to use, alas, by necessity, I say, ‘Who is it? What’s his interest?’ We talk it through.” [20]
    In a response to an article in the New Yorker in which Hersh alleged that the U.S. government was planning a strike on Iran, U.S. Defense Department spokesman Brian Whitman said, “This reporter has a solid and well-earned reputation for making dramatic assertions based on thinly sourced, unverifiable anonymous sources.”[21]
    Speeches
    Those who criticize Hersh’s credibility especially point to allegations Hersh has made in public speeches and interviews, rather than in print. In an interview with New York Magazine, Hersh made a distinction between the standards of strict factual accuracy for his print reporting and the leeway he allows himself in speeches, in which he may talk informally about stories still being worked on or blur information to protect his sources. “Sometimes I change events, dates, and places in a certain way to protect people… I can√¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t fudge what I write. But I can certainly fudge what I say.” [22]
    Some of Hersh’s speeches concerning the Iraq War have described violent incidents involving U.S. troops in Iraq. In July 2004, during the height of the Abu Ghraib scandal, he alleged that American troops sexually assaulted young boys:
    “ Basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children, in cases that have been recorded, the boys were sodomized, with the cameras rolling, and the worst above all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking. That your government has. They’re in total terror it’s going to come out.[23] ”
    In a subsequent interview with New York magazine, Hersh regretted that “I actually didn√¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t quite say what I wanted to say correctly…it wasn√¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t that inaccurate, but it was misstated. The next thing I know, it was all over the blogs. And I just realized then, the power of√¢‚Ǩ‚Äùand so you have to try and be more careful.” [24] In his book, Chain of Command, he wrote that one of the witness statements he had read described the rape of a boy by a foreign contract interpreter at Abu Ghraib, during which a woman took pictures. [25]
    At a Columbia University speech given by Hersh in June 2004, author Rick Perlstein reported:
    √¢‚Ǩ≈ì [Hersh] said he had seen all the Abu Ghraib pictures. He said, “You haven’t begun to see evil…” then trailed off. He said, “horrible things done to children and women prisoners, as the cameras run.” [26] √¢‚Ǩ¬ù
    In an interview with KQED host Michael Krasny on October 8, 2004 [27], Hersh reported speaking with a first lieutenant in charge of a unit stationed halfway between Baghdad and the Syrian border:
    √¢‚Ǩ≈ì His group was bivouacking outside of town in an agricultural area, and had hired 30 or so Iraqis to guard a local granary. A few weeks passed. They got to know the men they hired, and to like them. Then orders came down from Baghdad that the village would be “cleared.” Another platoon from the soldier’s company came and executed the Iraqi granary guards. All of them.
    He said they just shot them one by one. And his people, and he, and the villagers of course, went nuts,” Hersh said quietly. “He was hysterical, totally hysterical. He went to the company captain, who said, ‘No, you don’t understand, that’s a kill. We got 36 insurgents. Don’t you read those stories when the Americans say we had a combat maneuver and 15 insurgents were killed?’
    ”
    In a speech at McGill University in October 2006, after describing a video he had seen in which U.S. troops, following an attack on their convoy, had fired upon and killed a group of nearby soccer players, Hersh offered the assessment that “there has never been an [American] army as violent and murderous as our army has been in Iraq.√¢‚Ǩ¬ù [28] However, in the same speech Hersh later back-peddled and said that there were other armies that had been worse than the Americans and that he did not believe in moral equivocation, when comparing the atrocities of one army to another.

  56. There were 2 articles and I can’t help it if Sy Hersh is a great journalist.

  57. ” I don’t like how that sounds. You keep flapping your mouth like that you might find yourself in jail”
    When you got nothin, threaten to sue ’em. Call the ACLU.

  58. We should just start a war with EVERYONE. Maybe we could fight it with computers, or cyborgs

  60. Are those bunker busters guided by a laser spot on the ground like some of the other weapons out there? One can only hope I guess

  61. LH, I was thinking more along the lines of slander and terrorist treats. The ACLU would probable defend him/you… whatever.

  62. The demonizing of Iran, including attempts to associate Iran with 9/11, on local Fox news outlets has begun. The propaganda war has shifted gears. Stay tuned.

  63. The only way to win is to create a new reality. We must rewin the hearts and minds of the people at all costs. All those who oppose us must perish. We have to will and desire to defeat the evildoers. Resistance is Futile.

  64. Mikey, you set new standards for your own mighty dimwittedness of late, as above. And then (just as you’ve done before), you threaten them, this time with “jail and civil court” (in that order, such is your confused apprehension of our judicial system). Not nice
    You need a rest, laserballboy, because the extent of your alienation is all that currently defines your posts. A long rest. Nothing, and I do so mean NOTHING, ever comes through of love of country, concern about fundamentalist Islam or North Korea, even of respect for your fellow posters as human beings. It goes beyond my view of you as a sort of perpetually frothing Mr. Magoo of the “angry left,” even. At times you even sound genuinely animated solely by bile. (There’s a character in a David Storey novel like that, she has a nervous breakdown because nobody shares her “concerns” over drought conditions in the Sahel.)
    I used to find it quaint when a few tried to defend you. Now I’d simply be incredulous. Even as you remain the village idiot, you aspire to be the village’s sagelike political scold. (But in the 17th century, laserlad, the village scold was often put in the stocks to shut him/her up.) Dealing with you, too, is the modern Baristanet version of bear-baiting. Is this really what you need or intended?

  65. We cannot afford to lose this war. That would force and investigation into why we even went to war with iraq in the first place, which would altimately get people locked up.

  69. There is no real discussion of “national” politics here, appletony. Instead, it’s all lasermikey 24/7! (Of course it’s thus not at all “fair and balanced.”) And the “politics” can get very personal indeed. I mean, jail and civil court!
    May I respectfully suggest that you visit a more innocuous thread for your rest, perhaps the one from 2 days ago about a new toy store?

  70. “The demonizing of Iran, including attempts to associate Iran with 9/11”
    sorry, but axis of evil holds true today as it should have when the peanut farmer was pres.
    Iran is fighting us in Iraq.
    Tune in.

  72. Don’t just move along. If there is a chance to stop the war with Iran we should do it. The war with Iraq was a terrible mistake and we can avoid another great mistake. Go to stopiranwar.com click “act now”.

  73. And you, mikey, should go to a mental health site and, in the place where it says to click for help, do so straightaway.
    Barring that, I recommend a week in Iran. Perhaps the next time (and I’m sure there’ll be a next time) they hold a Holocust-denial conference or a “kill the Zionists” rally?

  75. 2008 nullification.
    Now this is a plan.
    WASHINGTON – House Democratic leaders are developing an anti-war proposal that wouldn’t cut off money for U.S. troops in Iraq while requiring President Bush to acknowledge problems with an overburdened military. The plan could draw broad bipartisan support but was expected to be a tough sell to members who said they don’t think it goes far enough to assuage voters angered by the four-year war.
    Bush “hasn’t to date done anything we’ve asked him to do, so why we would think he would do anything in the future is beyond me,” said Rep. Lynne Woolsey D-Calif., one of a group of liberal Democrats pushing for an immediate end to the war.
    Democratic protests to the war grew louder in January after they took control of Congress and Bush announced that he planned to send 21,500 more troops to Iraq. Earlier this month, House Democrats pushed through a nonbinding resolution opposing the troop buildup.
    Since then, Democrats have been trying to decide what to do next. Some worried that a plan by Rep. John Murtha to restrict funding for the war would go too far. Murtha, D-Pa., is extending his support to the revised proposal.
    The tactic is more likely to embarrass Bush politically than force his hand on the war. He would have to sign repeated waivers for units and report to Congress those units with equipment shortfalls and other problems

  76. So why is it that Cheney says British removal of 6000 troops is good news and a “sign of progress” but yet it would not be good news if America were to try and do the same ?

  77. “The tactic is more likely to embarrass Bush politically than force his hand on the war. He would have to sign repeated waivers for units and report to Congress those units with equipment shortfalls and other problems”
    GOOD !!!!!!!!!!! Maybe the Chimp will finally get a dose of reality.

  78. “The tactic is more likely to embarrass Bush politically than force his hand on the war. He would have to sign repeated waivers for units and report to Congress those units with equipment shortfalls and other problems”
    GOOD !!!!!!!!!!! Maybe the Chimp will finally get a dose of reality.

  79. “The tactic is more likely to embarrass Bush politically than force his hand on the war. He would have to sign repeated waivers for units and report to Congress those units with equipment shortfalls and other problems”
    GOOD !!!!!!!!!!! Maybe the Chimp will finally get a dose of reality.

  81. Little Mickey,
    Pick up any paper, turn on any news report, take the blinders off.
    Everyone including, democratz are saying they don’t know what to do. They have nothingggggggggggg.
    Even remember you muttering something about they “haven’t found themselves” yet.
    What planet are you living on ?

  83. Chicken Hawk,
    You post a story and no author or news outlet.

  84. Why do Democrats want to eliminate secret ballots for workers when they unionize?
    Democrats: Join the union or we’ll break your knees.

  85. When it’s time to change
    You got to rearrange
    who you are
    and what your gonna be
    shanna na na na na na na na
    shanna na na na
    shanna na na na na na na na
    shanna na na na

  86. George W. Bush : better or worse than Clinton
    The irony is the guy who lied abbout smoking dope was a better president than the guy whos born again with 2 DWI’s and still smokes crack regulary at work.

  87. Lasermikeitis.
    Don’t let this happen to you. Know the signs and symptoms of this dreaded disease before it becomes chronic:
    1. Increased frothing at the mouth.
    2. Glassy stare.
    3. Repeating oneself ad nauseum.
    4. Cold, clammy hands that seek to grab onto imaginary straws.
    5. A form of OCD in which the victim has an overwhelming desire to cut and paste articles from Wikipedia and other secondary sources.

  88. Democrats aim to tack pet spending projects onto Iraq bill
    By Andrew Taylor, Associated Press
    WASHINGTON – While Democrats try to restrict how President Bush can spend the $100 billion he wants for Iraq, they also hope to load his measure up with $10 billion in add-ons — from aid for Great Plains farmers to help for children lacking health insurance and better levees in New Orleans.
    The expected battle with the White House over the add-ons is getting far less attention than debate over Iraq, but it could reveal a lot about how much Democrats will be able to rewrite the president’s budget later this year.
    Bush has yet to veto a spending bill, and Democrats are gambling he’ll sign the Iraq measure despite objections to spending he didn’t seek. Republicans, meanwhile, would be reluctant to vote against the package since it contains funds for U.S. troops overseas.

  89. So why is it that Cheney says British removal of 6000 troops is good news and a “sign of progress” but yet it would not be good news if America were to try and do the same ?
    What’s he supposed to say, we were wrong?

  91. Um the British are stationed in a different part of Iraq where it isn’t as violent and the Iraqis have assumed control

  93. The reference to assassination above, besides being morally stupefying, just proves (again) how the actual quality of “debate” has plummeted on Baristanet. What hath these days of lasermikey wrought, you know?
    And no one else misses the always-gentlemanly ROC? Or walleroo when he’s not in his of-late horny middle-aged marsupial thing?

  94. 10 billion to fund health care insurance for poor children. I support it.
    10 billion dollars… that is about a month in Iraq. I don’t see you complaining about 100 billion dollar war budget for war.
    I think its great they added those amendments to the war appropriations. Its kind of a silver lining. What is Bush going to do, veto the bill?

  96. Maybe we could start using play money to finance the war. They we could keep the robots (i mean soldiers) over there forever.
    Does anybody who supports the war think its bullsh*t that guys are going into their 3 and 4th tour? I think it’s time those guys to come home and get back to living their damn lives.
    F**k Bush and Cheney and all the other Kool-Aid drinkers for diverting attention away from the real mission, CATCHING BIN LADEN. Nobody gave 2 sh*ts about Iraq before 9/11, and there are 100 other dictators out there as bad or worse than Saddam Hussein. This was all about avenging an attempted assassination again George HW Bush. Bush lied and people got wacked. People are still dying, and all I hear is “we have to win” Phuck that! we lost when we diverted are attention to Iraq. Game over.

  97. ‘Nobody gave 2 sh*ts about Iraq before 9/11″
    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhm wew went to war w/ that country 11 years earlier

  98. “Sergeant,” your message might go over better without the gratuitous profanity. (This isn’t “Rolling Stone,” I hope you realize, so you don’t have to come off as a tough guy to be taken seriously as a writer.) And I write this as someone who dates back to the Nam-era Army, which was hardly a “kindly and gentle” sort of force.
    Nor are there “100” dictators out there as bad or worse than Saddam Hussein. I can personally only think of 3-4, but perhaps by your seemingly expansive standards I’m undercounting. In any case, nonetheless, no more than about 25.

  99. Sergeant,” your message might go over better without the gratuitous profanity. (This isn’t “Rolling Stone,” I hope you realize, so you don’t have to come off as a tough guy to be taken seriously as a writer.
    Sorry, I’m just keepin it real. Next time I’ll use the edit button

  100. “The Administration has been conducting secret reconnaissance missions inside Iran at least since last summer.”
    YEAH!

  102. “Americans are very frustrated, and they have every right to be. We’ve wasted a lot of our most precious treasure, which is American lives.”

  105. Who killed more Americans?
    a) Ossama
    b) W. Bush
    Osama killed less than 3,000. I think Bush has sent well over that totheir deaths.

  106. “We’ve wasted a lot of our most precious treasure, which is American lives.””
    “waste” ?
    This is an unfortunate use of words for the senator.
    A man who was held as a POW.
    A man who knows what a soldier thinks and believes.
    A soldier, a true soldier (not one who is pandering for president on a late night talk show) would never say that their service or their life was a waste.
    Little Mickey, your life is a waste, because you chose to do nothing.
    A soldier volunteers because he wants to serve his country.
    And that punky is noble.

  107. “And that punky is noble.”
    And what’s so noble about you? That you post all day every day?

  109. Reuters
    Iraqi security forces killed dozens of al Qaeda militants who attacked a village in western Anbar province, during fierce clashes that lasted much of the day, police officials said.
    Sunni tribal leaders are involved in a growing power struggle with Sunni al Qaeda for control of Anbar, a vast desert province that is the heart of the Sunni Arab insurgency in Iraq.
    In Baghdad, US and Iraqi troops are engaged in a security crackdown to stop bloodshed between Shi’ites and Sunni Arabs.
    US and Iraqi military officials said troops would soon launch aggressive operations to seize weapons and hunt gunmen in the Shi’ite militia bastion of Sadr City, signalling resolve to press ahead with the plan even in sensitive areas.
    The seRGE continues

  110. The seRGE continues and more of our soldiers are gonna be fed into the Bush/Cheney meat grinder.
    Mission Accomplished.

  114. “Who killed more Americans?”
    Well, the answer is Bill Clinton! More than 4 thousand died in a four year consecutive run while Bill was “at the helm” and we deployed more forces to more countries during peace-time than any other president in our history. I suppose you Dumb-ocrats don’t , can’t and won’t rmember any of that.
    Or do you really not care about American service men and women when your boy has the finger pointed at him?
    Oh, and Sgt. Stupid, I’ll bet you dimes to dollars that Israel gave two sh*ts about Iran and what was going on. That is to say if you view Jews as people. Or do you suggest that we turn our back on an ally that has and continues to be persecuted since God called them His chosen people?
    Yeah, Sgt. Moron, we should just say the war in Iraq is too tough, we shouldn’t be there, let’s go home, we’ll never win, blah, blah, blah. I guess you also forgot the quotes all of your radical leftist friends (posing as centrists) made regarding Iraq, Saddam Hussein and his weapons arsenal.
    Shall I remind you?
    Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998
    “If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
    Chuck Schumer > October 10, 2002
    “It is Hussein’s vigorous pursuit of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons, and his present and future potential support for terrorist acts and organizations that make him a danger to the people of the United States.”
    John Kerry > January 23, 2003
    “Without question we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator leading an impressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he’s miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. His consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction.”
    Nancy Pelosi > December 16, 1998
    “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
    Al Gore > September 23, 2002
    “We know that he has stored nuclear supplies, secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
    Dick Gephardt > September 23, 2002
    “(I have seen) a large body of intelligence information over a long time that he is working on and has weapons of mass destruction. Before 1991, he was close to a nuclear device. Now, you’ll get a debate about whether it’s one year away or five years away.”
    Sandy Berger > February 18, 1998
    “He’ll use those weapons of mass destruction again as he has 10 times since 1983.”
    Jay Rockefeller > October 10, 2002
    “There was unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. We also should remember that we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
    Senator Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002
    “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock. His missile delivery capability, his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists including Al-Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
    Bill Clinton > December 17, 1998
    “Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq…. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.”
    Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998
    “We have to defend our future from these predators of the 21st Century…. They will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen. There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein.”
    Hillary Clinton > January 22, 2003
    “I voted for the Iraqi resolution. I consider the prospect of a nuclear-armed Saddam Hussein who can threaten not only his neighbors but the stability of the region and the world, a very serious threat to the United States.”
    John Edwards > February 6, 2003
    “The question is whether we’re going to allow this man who’s been developing weapons of mass destruction continue to develop weapons of mass destruction, get nuclear capability and get to the place where — if we’re going to stop him if he invades a country around him — it’ll cost millions of lives as opposed to thousands of lives.”
    John Kerry > February 23, 1998
    “Saddam Hussein has already used these weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to continue to try, by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do so. That is a threat to the stability of the Middle East. It is a threat with respect to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis. It is a threat even to regions near but not exactly in the Middle East.”
    Al Gore > December 16, 1998
    “[I]f you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons? He has already demonstrated a willingness to use such weapons…”
    The Chimp beat you dummies twice and you hate him for it. Choke on that.
    The real problem is you have been outsmarted and you have very short memories. On both counts you show your true colors. Or as we say on the street when keeping it real — You be ignant!

  115. Bad mouthing a Chimp?
    Hey Barista–You got something against chimps? They are animals who need our love and respect.
    I’m surprised that you didn’t suggest that we impeach the chimp right out of the animal kingdom. That would only be right and fair given that your three toed sloth got impeached. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a cigar for an intern.
    Ooops. Went a bit too far on that last one.
    Didn’t Ronaldus Magnus have a chimp? That’s right, Bonzo! Maybe this is just a bad species for you Barista. But that’s okay. The animal kingdom just put a bunch of your other misfits in charge. I’d think you’d be happy now that the world is safe and we live in a much better time.
    Again, the chimp should be irrelevant. He’s not? Boo-hoo!

  116. In the months since the Congressional elections, President Bush has lost substantial support among members of his own party, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll. Mr. Bush’s approval rating dropped 13 percentage points since last fall among Republicans, 65 percent of whom now say they approve of the way he is handling his job as president, compared with 78 percent last October.
    Over all, Mr. Bush’s job approval remains at one of its lowest points, with 29 percent of all Americans saying they approve of the way he is doing his job, compared with 34 percent at the end of October. Sixty-one percent disapproved, compared with 58 percent in October, within the margin of sampling error.
    Twenty-three percent of those polled approved of the way Mr. Bush is dealing with the situation in Iraq. Twenty-five percent approved of his handling of foreign policy.
    Even the president√¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢s campaign against terrorism, long his signature issue, is seen positively by only 40 percent of those polled, while 53 percent disapprove….
    Chimpy ain’t fooling anybody, moron.

  117. “Hey General Sturgeon,
    Things are looking up.
    Plan to bring home the troops.”
    I heard it was directly due to the postings of one Lasermike on Baristanet. Good going! Nobel Prize material, I tell ya.

  118. Hey Choke on Another one.
    I don’t care what his numbers are when he even prophesied that Americans would grow faint-hearted over a protracted fight against terror. So the majority of people who listen to the most anti-bush biased news have given him horrible popularity numbers–what would you expect? This AIN’T a popularity contest dear Breck Girl. It’s a war!!!
    He’s NOT running again–He’s doing his JOB.
    So quote all the numbers you want Mr/Ms Whiner it doesn’t mean squat. I suppose you live all your life by consensus, huh? Why don’t you try and stand up for the right thing even when it’s unpopular and see what your numbers are instead of hiding in liberal Baristaville with other like-minded left-wing, let’s give up, I care about the troops (but have no one in the military) and hate the war knuckleheads. Or are you incapable of that?
    See if they’ll let you have your property back from the testicle lock-box.

  119. Hey Sturgeon General,
    Queen of diamond. Go jump in a lake.

  121. Don’t Blame Sun for Global Warming, Study Says
    Brian Handwerk
    for National Geographic News
    September 13, 2006
    Sunspots alter the amount of energy Earth gets from the sun, but not enough to impact global climate change, a new study suggests.

  123. LaserMike,
    If I shoot a dissenting opinion at you about Man-made Global Warming will you threaten to sue me or just threaten to take me behind the woodshed and kick my ass?
    How come in 1974 Time reported that the leading climatologists (then referred to as scientists) claimed that in less the 20 years we would be in a huge Ice Age with the whole Northern portion of the US under a polar ice cap? Now, 33 years later the whole “Ice Age” theory is shot? Maybe you need to familiarize yourself with Dr. Roy Spencer’s work when he was at NASA. A nationally renowned climatologist who no longer worships at your alters.
    Check it out…unless you enjoy living the whole “sky is falling” lifestyle.

  124. Who said anything about sun Spots?
    It’s solar “output” which is well known to be at a cyclical peak. And the solar output is unrelated to sunspots.
    Would (strangely coincidental) current global warming of Mars be an Inconvenient Truth?

  125. Posted by: take action at StopLiberalsinBaristaville.com
    pssst…your vote does not count anymore. remember ?

  126. Mikey did you actually read the article you cited? From the very same article:
    “Sun Not Off the Hook for Warming
    The authors and other experts are quick to point out that more complicated solar mechanisms could possibly be driving climate change in ways we don’t yet understand.
    Climate change carries such high stakes that even more unlikely possibilities may capture scientific attention.
    “There are numerous studies that find a correlation [between solar variation and Earth climate],” said Sami Solanki of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Lindau, Germany.
    “These authors have looked at the simplest mechanism, and they find that this mechanism does not produce the same level of change that has been observed,” he continued.
    “This could be suggesting that there are other mechanisms acting for the way that the sun influences climate.”
    Solar ultraviolet (UV) rays are one possibility, though that theory creates its own challenges.
    “UV is only a small fraction of total solar output, so you’d need a strong amplification mechanism in the Earth’s atmosphere,” study co-author Spruit said.
    Magnetized plasma flares known as solar wind could also impact Earth’s climate. Solar wind influences galactic rays and may in turn affect atmospheric phenomena on Earth, such as cloud cover.
    Such complex interactions are poorly understood but could be crucial to unlocking Earth’s climatic puzzle.
    “I think the main question,” the Max Planck Institute’s Solanki said, “is, How does the sun [in general] act on climate? What are the processes that are going on in the Earth’s atmosphere?”

  127. Barista,
    Who said my vote doesn’t count anymore?
    Or is it the plan of you liberals to silence everyone who voices a different view other than your intolerant one?
    Land of the Free, home of the like-minded!!!

  128. The different is you are making wilded guess while the majority of scientists agree that climate change is man made.

  130. Lasermike, can you please
    tell me then why the climate in Britain was warm enough so that the Brits were able to grow grapes and brew wine back in the Middle Ages? No SUVs back then, remember?

  132. Dubya doesn’t care about polls.
    He acts from his heart, not focus groups like the one who has articles of impeachment on his record.

  134. “Or is it the plan of you liberals to silence everyone who voices a different view other than your intolerant one? ”
    pssst… and your view does not count anymore either. 70% of America no longer agrees with you , schmuck.

  135. gonna bite you in da butt.
    LATimes
    WASHINGTON √¢‚Ǩ‚Äù Democratic lawmakers, who earlier this month nearly unanimously backed resolutions condemning President Bush’s plans to boost troop levels in Iraq, are struggling to agree on what to do next in their drive to bring the war to an end.
    In the Senate, party leaders who faced dissent in their own caucus have decided to postpone consideration of a binding resolution that would set limits on what U.S. forces could do in the conflict.
    And in the House, Democrats are wrestling with even deeper divisions as they try to agree on a way to use a supplemental war funding bill to slow the deployment of more troops in Iraq amid accusations by Republicans that the move would deprive troops of the help they need.
    At a closed-door caucus meeting Tuesday, three senior House Democrats — including the chairmen of the Appropriations and Armed Services committees — urged their colleagues to support the funding strategy, the details of which are being worked out.
    But the apparent deceleration of the legislative drive to end the war is dismaying antiwar activists.
    “There seems to be a new world land-speed record set in back-peddling,” said Tom Andrews, a former Democratic congressman from Maine.

  136. “He acts from his heart, not focus groups like the one who has articles of impeachment on his record.”
    Guess his heart’s located in his ass, just like 99.9% of his jesus camp followers.
    And, give it up with the impeachment crap. The Rethuglicans tied up the country for two years with that bogus witch hunt while Bin Laden was putting the finishing touches on 9/11. Thanks for the distraction, you treasonous bastards.

  142. “And so I’m for medical liability at the federal level.”√¢‚Ǩ‚Äù George W. Bush Discussing his support of medical liability reform, Washington, D.C., March 10, 2006

  143. I see the Baristanet political discussion reached a new low. Don’t any of you cretins work?

  144. Author, source, and link please.
    Date would be a plus too.
    War bill divides Democrats
    By Noam N. Levey and Richard Simon, Times Staff Writers
    February 28, 2007
    LATimes
    At the same time, Sen. Russell D. Feingold (D-Wis.), a leading antiwar lawmaker, said the proposal did not go far enough.
    “The people of this country did not ask us to reshape the mission in Iraq,” he said. “They asked us to end it.”
    https://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-warvote28feb28,1,7410353.story?page=2

  145. March 2, 2007
    Poll Shows Bush Is Losing Support of Republicans
    By MARJORIE CONNELLY
    In the months since the Congressional elections, President Bush has lost substantial support among members of his own party, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll.
    Mr. Bush’s approval rating dropped 13 percentage points since last fall among Republicans, 65 percent of whom now say they approve of the way he is handling his job as president, compared with 78 percent last October.
    Over all, Mr. Bush’s job approval remains at one of its lowest points, with 29 percent of all Americans saying they approve of the way he is doing his job, compared with 34 percent at the end of October. Sixty-one percent disapproved, compared with 58 percent in October, within the margin of sampling error.
    Twenty-three percent of those polled approved of the way Mr. Bush is dealing with the situation in Iraq. Twenty-five percent approved of his handling of foreign policy.
    Even the president’s campaign against terrorism, long his signature issue, is seen positively by only 40 percent of those polled, while 53 percent disapprove.
    Three-quarters of those polled say things are going badly for the United States in Iraq, and only 23 percent say the efforts to bring stability and order to Iraq are going well.
    Seventy percent, including 52 percent of Republicans, say there is not much the United States military can do to reduce the sectarian fighting in Iraq.
    Over all, 23 percent of the public say the country is going in the right direction and 68 percent see it as “on the wrong track.”
    The nationwide telephone poll was conducted Friday through Tuesday with 1,281 adults and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points. The margin of sampling error for Republicans is plus or minus five percentage points.

  146. My feet won’t stop doing the Cretin Hop.
    What are the inhabitants of Crete called anyway?

  150. “Or is it the plan of you liberals to silence everyone who voices a different view other than your intolerant one”
    WHAT???? isn’t that what conservatives do for a living?

  151. Stll, no matter how it’s spelled it still sounds funny.
    “Hi, I’m a Cretan. Where are you from?”

  152. Soros buys Halliburton
    ForeignPolicy.com
    Normally, I’m willing to overlook the hypocrisy of the liberal elite. If Al Gore and√Ǭ†his Hollywood cronies√Ǭ†want to fly around√Ǭ†on gas-guzzling, atmosphere-polluting√Ǭ†private jets while railing against global climate change, I’m willing to overlook it.
    But the latest move by√Ǭ†globe trotting, hyper-liberal billionaire George Soros borders on being too much. According to papers filed with the SEC, in the fourth quarter of 2006 Soros purchased nearly $2million shares of … hold your breath …√Ǭ†Halliburton. The Halliburton shares reportedly went for an average purchase price of $31.30 a share. That√Ǭ†puts Soros’ total investment in Halliburton at around $62.6 million, or about 2 percent of his√Ǭ†total portfolio.
    Soros, of course,√Ǭ†is the dean of Democratic money giving. And Halliburton, of course, is the company that embodies everything the√Ǭ†Democrats see as evil.√Ǭ†Dick Cheney is its former chief, for goodness’ sake.√Ǭ†But Soros is also a man of contradictions. He supported campaign finance reform for years, only to√Ǭ†declare that√Ǭ†defeating President George W. Bush√Ǭ†was the “central focus” of his life. To prove it, he sunk $24 million of his own “soft” money into the 2004 campaign, helping make√Ǭ†that election√Ǭ†one of the most divisive√Ǭ†in modern history.
    Soros’√Ǭ†position in Halliburton is√Ǭ†reported to be his first, which means he bought it√Ǭ†with a full understanding of Halliburton’s reputation. Soros may not see a problem with profiting from√Ǭ†a√Ǭ†company that has been accused of everything from sweatheart deals to cooking the books to√Ǭ†serving U.S. troops lousy food in Iraq. The real question, however, is whether MoveOn.org, the Center for American Progress, and other organizations that have benefitted from Soros’ charity will see√Ǭ†a problem with accepting money earned off Halliburton shares?

  153. His American publishers changed the title of a Jack Higgins novel from “The Cretan Lover” (they pronounce it “crett-in” in the UK) because they worried Americans would assume the book was about a love affair between idiots.
    (Though that would necessarily rattle the American tv-watching public….)
    “Cretaceous” is brilliant, by the way.

  154. Barista,
    My vote counts! My opinion counts! Why? Because I live in America and I am a person.
    You may wish this was a communistic state or town where you can silence people who disagree with you but thank God you don’t get your wish.
    Just because you are the hostess here doesn’t make you god. You may be a demagogue but you don’t make the rules in life vis-a-vis free speech and the right of casting a vote or airing an opinion.
    I bet Harry Reid didn’t think Joe Lieberman’s vote or opinon would count either.
    Sound off, one, two. Sound off, three four.
    Sound off, Barista is just a simple a bore.

  155. LaserMike,
    You said,
    “…the majority of scientists agree that climate change is man made.”
    Please answer this sincere question–Is science consensus? I believe the scientific method begins with a hypothesis and then moves to observation and then to conclusion. The conclusion either supports the hypothesis or it doesn’t. Correct?
    So, if a hypothesis is proven using the scientific method then there is no need for concensus. It is proven fact. There is no argument becuase it has been proven.
    As we look at the issue of global warming you and others keep chanting the ever vigilant chant of how a majority of scientists agree that we are in the midst of an environmental downward spiral. But not ALL scientists agree. Why? Because the burden of scientific proof, vis-a-vis the scientific method, has not been fulfilled.
    Please excuse me, my Hummer H1 has been warming up in the driveway for 45 minutes and I need to get more gas. Be back soon.

  156. Dudn’t look good their Mick,
    Define reasonable doubt !
    AP
    WASHINGTON – Jurors asked for the definition of “reasonable doubt” Friday after completing a shortened, eighth day of deliberations Friday in the perjury trial of ex-White House aide I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby.
    “We would like clarification of the term ‘reasonable doubt,'” jurors wrote. “Specifically, is it necessary for the government to present evidence that it is not humanly possible for someone not to recall an event in order to find guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

  157. Former vice president Al Gore was involved in a security breach at the Nashville Airport when an American Airlines employee led him and his entourage around security, a clear violation of policy.
    “There are no exceptions. Everyone must go through security,” airport spokesperson Lynn Lowrance said.
    Wednesday at the Nashville Airport, Gore arrived with two others and airport. Sgt. Gary Glover with airport police waited for his arrival and to go through security.
    “He made his way to security, waiting for him to come through the check area, then he saw him pop up past security in a sterile area,” Lowrance said.

  158. Republo-tard,
    You ARE almost completely wrong on climate change and have a stunningly distorted view of the scientific method. If you live long enough you just might experience the beginning of the bad times. Climate change aside, funding people that hate us isn’t a great idea either.

  159. LaserMike,
    It was an honest and sincere question! Okay we’ll play it your way.
    What kind of a dork are you? You think that all the scientists today are right but the ones back in the early 70’s were chumps. Hey, dufus, they’re the same guys. So what, in another 33 years we’ll be back facing another imepnding Ice Age.
    Please explain to me Mr. Lawyer (if that’s what you really are) what the scientific method is? And while you’re at it also explain how the whole concensus part of this makes sense to you but having real scientific proof doesn’t?
    Weatherman, meterologist and climatologists who do modeling scenarios cannot extrapolate out what will happen beyond 10 days. You think that they have got a lock on this when projecting out 25 years?
    Again, LaserMike, you are being led by your heart and not your head. That’s what makes you a left wing, gullible, liberal. Break free from the chains of ignorance. Follow your brain instead of your heart. The heart will always mislead you. Think critically.
    Oh, forget it. You’re a liberal lawyer. There’s no hope. But it’s been nice dancing with you.

  160. Any of you republicans, conservatives, theocrats, “liberterians”, etc… read “The Enemy at Home”?

  161. Ok, what books have you read on the subject? Lets trade books lists.

  162. The Oscar winner Al Gore tells us we all need to conserve to protect our planet. But his +10,000 sq. ft. home used more than $30K in energy costs in 2006. He even pays his own company to grant him carbon offsets to reduce his carbon footprint to near 0%. But W. has a 4,000 sq. ft. geothermal powered home in Crawford, TX which uses 25% of a home’s normal energy usage.
    Wow, maybe GWB should be the new leader of the Global WARNING movement. I’ll even bet he could get some funding from the Leonardo DeCrappyo types.
    I’m wondering if Cindy ever got to appreciate Crawford’s environmentally friendly hospitality at the GWB ranch?

  163. LaserMike,
    Is it a book about you? If not, it sure sounds like it should be.
    Pitbull

  164. I’m just saying, it sound like you have nothing.
    Al Gore works at home, get his power from green sources, and buy carbon credits. His power utilization is lower that some small homes in Tennessee. I’m sorry, you are mistaken.

  165. I’m just saying, it sound like you have nothing.
    Al Gore works at home, get his power from green sources, and buys carbon credits. His net carbon foot print is 0. His power utilization is lower that some small homes in Tennessee. I’m sorry, you are mistaken.

  166. LaserMike,
    He’s buying carbon offsets which are really pollution credits from his own company. He’s making money while appearing to be doing a noble thing. He’s purchasing offsets (what a scam) instead of conserving. He expects us to conserve, move into smaller homes, drive hybrid vehicles, and use public transportation. But what’s he really doing?
    Al Gore is a HUGE hypocrite. I want to say that nothing will convince me otherwise but I will listen to what you have to say, Mike.
    Pitbull

  167. He’s made changes. Why haven’t you?
    I drive a Prius. I use compact florescent and led bulbs. I turn the heat down in the winter and the air conditioner up in the summer. I buy energy efficiently appliances. I buy organic local grown food. I even use a Sony Reader so I can avoid buying paper books. And I need to do better and innovate more.
    We can reduce carbon emission. We just need to change our strategies. We are failing to reduce climate change not lack of technology only for lack of will.

  168. We can reduce carbon emission. We just need to change our strategies. We are failing to reduce climate change not for a lack of technology, only for lack of will.

  169. “Please explain to me Mr. Lawyer”
    He’s no lawyer, more like mens room attendant.

  170. “We can reduce carbon emission. We just need to change our strategies. We are failing to reduce climate change not for a lack of technology, only for lack of will.”
    Right and the guy who invented the internet said at oscar:
    “it’s not a political issue, it’s a moral issue”
    Moral issue….. Liberal double talk, for do as i say not as i do. I will buy credits on your back and live how I like.. You must cut back cut down and pay more for everything green.
    Mickwit said:
    “He’s made changes. Why haven’t you?
    I drive a Prius. I use compact florescent and led bulbs. I turn the heat down in the winter and the air conditioner up in the summer. I buy energy efficiently appliances. I buy organic local grown food. I even use a Sony Reader so I can avoid buying paper books. And I need to do better and innovate more.”
    Mick, he has made NO CHANGES………none.hes burning more energy than he ever has.
    as for your: “I have, I this, I even, I need to….” Your a freak.

  171. Are you angry because we can deal with climate change or are you just angry? I think the latter.

  172. Maybe the liberals are just all going through menopause and that is why they are “warm” all the time.

  173. I believe we can realize goals that would benefit everyone in spite of the detractors.

  174. Mike,
    I commend you on your efforts and wish at times I could do better. While I do not believe the problem is caused by man I nonetheless think that anything we can do to reduce our impact upon the earth is a good thing.
    I have personally planted over 15,000 pine trees, organized and led a group of 15 people in the clean-up of an oil spill on our local lake, and have done a fair amount of work stopping soil erosion along a portion of the Appalachian Trail. So I am not a conservative without a heart for the environment. I just do not believe that we have as much impact as others believe.
    I do have a REAL problem with someone who advocates conservation but appears to do nothing to conserve (Al Gore). He flew on a private jet to the Sundance Film Festival. He uses a large amount of energy on a very large home (which I have no problem with) but preaches conservation to others. It just seems incongruent.
    Again, Mike, I praise you on your efforts. I hope you would concede my point about Al not walking the walk.
    Pitbull

  175. Barista,
    Menopausal liberals? Next there will be a proposed law banning women from having personal summers while in public for fear it’s contributing to Global Warming.
    That reminds me of a joke–
    What’s the difference between a menopausal liberal and a terrorist? You can reason with a terrorist.
    Lighten up!
    It was just a joke.
    Pitbull

  176. slaughter has joined the mikey psst douchbag brigade.
    Hey mikey how much energy does it take to make a sony reader?
    Gore is paying carbon credits to a company owned by him!
    HEY fU if the sociopath in chief hadn’t committed perjury there would have been no impeachmet douchebag. He lied and 3000 died because of him defending his lies

  177. Army Secretary Francis Harvey resigned today after memos surfaced indicating that officials knew of the conditions at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
    As a veteran, I’m really pissed off by this. the Bush administration is an embarassment and it amazes me that people still rush to his defense acting like he actually cares about the welfare of troops.
    Most of you will try and make it a Republican vs. Democrat or Liberal versus Conservative issue, but its about taking care of soldiers that deserve the best medical care after doing what they’ve done and come home wounded. And the truth is starting at Rumsfeld and now with Harvey, our soldiers have dealt with the consequences of the indecisions of inept politicans.
    President Truman had the motto the buck stops here and it does stop at the President and everywhere I turn its the missteps of this president that our men and women in uniform have to pay for.
    And yet some march to his defense b/c you’re registered to the same party like sheep. Where’s the outrage? You say support the troops? Where’s yours? If you supported our soldiers, you’d be speaking up and demanding answers and yet some of you go on pointing fingers at either ideogical side because thats all you know how to do. And thats the worst part about it.

  178. Pitbull,
    Al Gore is not a hypocrite on Climate Change and this has be backed by numerous credible news sources. His critics are lying.
    Climate Change is a scientific reality that not even the president denies. Its hear and we have to deal with it. The man the wrote the definitive report on Climate Change is Sir John T. Houghton. I used to think like you but the evidence and science revealing Climate Change is overwhelming. Your mode of thinking is not uncommon from the last generation of scientists. Our scientific understanding of Climate Change has improve significantly. We can detected and understand Climate Change better. We can predicted it well enough to know doing nothing is not an option.
    Getting off oil and reducing carbon emissions has many strategic benefits too. Its time and we have the technology. The republican hierarchy has recently conceded these points although they haven’t been very vocal about it. Leadership from both parties are preparing their constituents for change in policy to reduce carbon emissions.

  179. Hey Mick,
    George Soros is going long on Halliburton stock.
    Is he betting against mr gore and the “consensus” of “the scientific community” ?

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